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POTM Nominations! (Summer 2015)

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With otome's unfortunate retirement, is this still going on? I have a few posts I'd like to nominate :)
 
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As far as I know the summer contest includes this month, meaning August. People were asked to privately make a list and note posts you want to nominate when the nomination time is on. (By the way, I noted a few posts myself I intend to nominate if/when the time is right).

The POTM contest (including the summer version) is a huge undertaking that needs a lot of time and the participation of a lot of people. There is the technical side, the art side, the organization of the contest itself but also keeping up to date who is entitled to what.

The POTM has always been very important to me - I always voted and was usually one of the first who did - but this contest needs people who a) have the time and b) the technical knowledge to run it.

Experienced moderators who have the time seem to be in very short supply. I would love to really get involved but although I have the time, my technical knowledge leaves a lot to be desired. :(
 

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Thank you for the info, B. Haddrell. I know how much work needs to be done every time to run this contest, but I hope it won't cease to exist. Still, if the staff decides that there are not enough resources to keep it running, I'll be OK with it.

I already have 18 posts on my list. :faint Out of that number, I have noted three posts that are, in my opinion, especially worthy of a nomination. :)

Since I feel like I might forget to nominate these posts when the time comes for it, I hope there will be an announcement that the nominations are open. That is, if the contest is still in function. :)
 
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I can always assist with the POTM nominations, just let me know :)
 

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With otome's unfortunate retirement, is this still going on? I have a few posts I'd like to nominate :)
This is totally up to the red names.

It is something I thought long and hard about before I left the mod team and pretty much BA. As the one who came up with the general idea for POTM, and was its primary caretaker (with much help from Nick), I believe that my voice should carry some weight.

I have already made Unicorn aware of my feelings, but I will post the Cliff's Notes version here.

I hope that POTM is not brought back. When I came up with the idea, my hope was that the bar would be raised when it came to the quality of postings. It was also another way of saying, "thank you," to those who do post thought-provoking messages across the site. And for the most part, things went just as I hoped. Members were pleasantly surprised, but they simply thought of a POTM nomination and badge as a nice treat. As members became more familiar with first-time badge recipients, they also were able to read a variety of perspectives and themes. That was what I hoped for when I suggested POTM.

Unfortunately, not everyone looked at POTM the way it was intended to be. It was meant to be enjoyable. I had hoped that all members would be happy for one another when they were nominated or when they made the top three. The ones who expected more, or who looked at POTM as part of their BA identity, started to take POTM too seriously.

I deliberately avoided referring to POTM as a contest. That's because it was never meant to be a popularity contest. It was meant only to acknowledge posts that resonated with members. I wanted POTM to be a possible result of posting thoughtfully. POTM was not meant to be a source of resentment because someone thought his/her own post was more deserving than the posts that earned badges. Nor was POTM ever meant to cause members to become upset because they thought they should have gotten a higher place in the voting. Yet that's what was happening.

Running POTM was a lot of work. With the real-life issues we were facing, we both decided some months that POTM would have to take a back seat to our families and our own needs. It was too much for two people. Even with the help Belias was able to contribute, it started to become too much for everyone who had actively worked behind the scenes.

I'm not sure how Nick felt, but I began to feel overwhelmed by the amount of work and by the types of complaints and requests that were coming in—always from the same two people. No matter how hard we tried, it seemed that it was never enough. I was frustrated and discouraged, and I decided that I just didn't have the time or desire to deal with the stress and the time demands.

I think it's time to let POTM remain as a relic of the past, in the Hall of Fame. I'm not sure that anyone else needs or wants to deal with the pressure or with the time demands.

Other contests sound great.
 
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Thank you for your input, Otome-san. I read the text more than once and thought about what you said.

I very much enjoyed the POTM! To me it was special and I agree, it did encourage people in general to post thoughtfully. But, yes, I am very much aware of the unfortunate side effects it also caused.

In spite of it, I think the positives definitely outweighed the negatives. I will always remember the POTM fondly and hope that I can continue wearing my badges also if the POTM will not continue. My personal opinion is after reading this, your wish should be respected. POTM should be discontinued. The last act should be to update the Hall of Fame and close it afterwards.

I wonder if it might be a good idea to open a thread that is not a contest of any kind or form but just a thread that could be named "Honourable Mentionings". People could just write a short text if they want and when they want to thank people. It could be about a review or a post they enjoyed. It could be about artwork, a sig people like or any other artistic effort. It could be thanking the translators for their efforts, people who contributed extra work and time. It could be thanking someone for a really good idea that helped to change something in BA for the better. I believe thanking someone for doing good work as a moderator is also a good thing because that job is very important. It could be about finding news. These are just examples.
 
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Now that I have read Otome-san's post a couple of times and understood it completely, I know why could the POTM stay as the relic of the past.

It is sad to hear that there were people who weren't pleased with their achievements. POTM was always an enjoyable event for me, because I could read all those wonderful posts again and even discover new excellent posts from sections I don't visit (frequently or at all) on Bleach Asylum.

I now realize that, quite a few times, I had a habit of calling POTM a contest. But, that was because I didn't have a better word to describe it, and because I haven't understood the word "contest" as seriously as its meaning actually is.

With that said, I will always have fond memories about POTM.

If indeed it won't exist anymore, I would just like to make the following suggestion: would it be a good idea to still have a Post of the Summer, as a good-bye event for the entire POTM feature?
 
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I understand Otome San's feelings. She made the badges many times, she tried to estimulate the Voting, etc, etc.
It is very hard when you dedicate yourself to a project, the result is very good, but only a few people admit it. On the other hand the number of critiques or disdain can really become a discouraging obstacle.
@Otome-san
You did well, relax :thumbs
Dealing with human-beings is extremely difficult, we are difficult beings. People maybe take the contest too serious and do not enjoy the show. It is already a honor being nominated.


I know some people who gives a sh** to thank for being appointed, or thank a congratulations they received (so does the reputation). I think this can be considered rude anywhere in the world, considering that there are people from all over the world in this forum.


As the original idea was to encourage good analysis and texts with interesting reasonings, I think in this case the project should continue.I think the POTM should go on, but I am not hypocritical, I cannot even help with the hard work. It would be nice if there was anyone available.

How about creating a contest, every three months/four months?
To people who can't stop complaining, they could be banned for a short period.
 
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This is totally up to the red names.

It is something I thought long and hard about before I left the mod team and pretty much BA. As the one who came up with the general idea for POTM, and was its primary caretaker (with much help from Nick), I believe that my voice should carry some weight.

I have already made Unicorn aware of my feelings, but I will post the Cliff's Notes version here.

I hope that POTM is not brought back. When I came up with the idea, my hope was that the bar would be raised when it came to the quality of postings. It was also another way of saying, "thank you," to those who do post thought-provoking messages across the site. And for the most part, things went just as I hoped. Members were pleasantly surprised, but they simply thought of a POTM nomination and badge as a nice treat. As members became more familiar with first-time badge recipients, they also were able to read a variety of perspectives and themes. That was what I hoped for when I suggested POTM.

Unfortunately, not everyone looked at POTM the way it was intended to be. It was meant to be enjoyable. I had hoped that all members would be happy for one another when they were nominated or when they made the top three. The ones who expected more, or who looked at POTM as part of their BA identity, started to take POTM too seriously.

I deliberately avoided referring to POTM as a contest. That's because it was never meant to be a popularity contest. It was meant only to acknowledge posts that resonated with members. I wanted POTM to be a possible result of posting thoughtfully. POTM was not meant to be a source of resentment because someone thought his/her own post was more deserving than the posts that earned badges. Nor was POTM ever meant to cause members to become upset because they thought they should have gotten a higher place in the voting. Yet that's what was happening.

Running POTM was a lot of work. With the real-life issues we were facing, we both decided some months that POTM would have to take a back seat to our families and our own needs. It was too much for two people. Even with the help Belias was able to contribute, it started to become too much for everyone who had actively worked behind the scenes.

I'm not sure how Nick felt, but I began to feel overwhelmed by the amount of work and by the types of complaints and requests that were coming in—always from the same two people. No matter how hard we tried, it seemed that it was never enough. I was frustrated and discouraged, and I decided that I just didn't have the time or desire to deal with the stress and the time demands.

I think it's time to let POTM remain as a relic of the past, in the Hall of Fame. I'm not sure that anyone else needs or wants to deal with the pressure or with the time demands.

Other contests sound great.
Thanks so much for taking the time to comment and share this reasoned opinion, Otome-san, and thank you so much for your huge amount of volunteer effort in making POTM an amazing effort. :thumbs I personally believe that for the vast majority of members, it had the effect you desired. Many people told me off-line that they were introduced to new and thoughtful posts that they wouldn't have read otherwise. Every month, I would read the nominated posts and often learn something completely new about Bleach, got introduced to new members who made fascinating and thoughtful comments, and had a lot of fun! :)

I thought it improved this site overall and definitely increased the quality of posts. For me, I know it provided an impetus to take extra time to compose a thoughtful post that I might not have done otherwise due to my busy life. I was always truly honored when one of my posts was nominated, and the one time I actually won I was completely surprised and delighted. I talked with other people who were nominated or won, and for them it was all a positive experience. I don't recall talking with anyone who was upset at not placing higher.

You mentioned that only two people would complain, and I'm very sorry that those two poor sports had to ruin the experience for the rest of us. And I'm especially sorry that you had to deal with those frustrations, since you have only ever been helpful and kind to this entire community. Sometimes it's best for people who primarily contribute negative energy to a community to be limited from doing so, as it often hurts the entire group by causing people like you, who really are crucial to keeping an online community a special place to be, to become burned out.

Although I would love to see POTM again, I agree that your opinion should carry the greatest weight. I am personally very sorry that it won't be continued, since I loved every aspect of it and still feel very proud of my badge. It's probably one of my best experiences on this site.

Anyway, thanks again for your huge contributions and for creating the Hall of Fame, which I still continue to read and enjoy. :D
 
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I agree I'd love to see POTM again. At the very least, perhaps we can still have submissions, and an end of the month period where we display them all in a consolidated post, but perhaps just no voting? Aka, just have the best posts of the month somewhere for member enjoyment to read?
 
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